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To Buy or not to Buy that is the Question.

It was Friday night June 24th and I was sitting in my living room watching the news surfing the net on my wireless laptop connection when I heard another commercial about GM Employee Discounts. It piqued my interest enough to go to Google and type in “GM Employee Discount”. This is what I found.


You can actually shop for cars in the privacy of your own home by dealer or zip code and see the pricing before you go to the lot.

In November of 1999 I bought a GMC Yukon Denali. I hadn’t planned on a new car but I wondered what the discounts were all about. I quickly learned as you can see by following the link above that the Denali class of SUV was typically 20-25% off the sticker.

The GM employee discount was generally 20% off the sticker and then they were also giving back a rebate of as much as $3,000. With that kind of pricing the question wasn’t whether or not I wanted to buy but what could I get for my trade in.

Of course I went to http://www.edmunds.com to get the value of my trade in and resolved to work with several dealers in town towards making a deal. On Edmunds they give you the ability to see Trade-In Value, Private Party Sale and Dealer Retail Sale. I resolved that if I could find someone that would give me the Trade-In Value and the Employee Discount with the $3,000 rebate I would buy the new car.

I communicated my intentions with 4 dealerships in our area and they all responded by email so I made some trips to let them appraise the trade-in. Several offers were insulting and as low as $3,000 but they quickly moved to $6,000 or $7,000. The problem was I wanted and deserved $9,200.

After leaving 3 dealerships the last one offered me $8,750 which was less than the $9,200 but since my car had 154,000 miles it was outside the limits that banks would finance for a potential buyer. I made the trade.

I wanted you to know a couple of things this month. One, the GM Employee discount was extended to the end of July and it really is hassle free pricing. Two, any time you are selling or buying used vehicles let Edmunds be your guide. Three, take your research with you to the dealer and show them the pricing you found on the net and the Fair Market Value of your trade-in. It saves a lot of hassle and haggling. Last, but not least don’t fall in love with a particular color vehicle or options package so you can walk if they don’t make the deal you want!

Happy Car Hunting from your computer.

Timothy J. Kilkenny
Founder & CEO

Find Places & Get There Quick – With or Without An Address!

Since 1996, MapQuest has been helping people find places, get there, and find places nearby. With over 40 million unique visitors each month, MapQuest (http://www.mapquest.com) is consistently ranked as the #1 mapping site and #1 directories site (comScore Media Metrix), as well as a Top 10 US Web brand (Nielsen Netratings).

Don’t have the address? Then use MapQuest Find It to search for millions of places in the U.S. by business name or category including airports, businesses, schools, parks and landmarks. MapQuest Find It can also help you find the place closest to a specific address -- such as a coffee shop near your hotel or a park near a school.

A bit more intuitive than most map sites, MapQuest remembers recently entered addresses, so you can select them from a drop-down menu. You can also copy directions over to a Palm or Pocket PC device, though you must install AvantGo (a free download) to take advantage of that service.

Happy (And Safe) Surfing from Your Friends at FullNet!

Roger Baresel

Urgent! Your (FullNet) Account is about to be suspended!

That headline probably attracted your notice rather quickly, which bring us to an important issue we need to address regarding email authenticity. It has come to our attention that recently there has been an influx of fraudulent emails which appear to be sent from a FullNet support or other administrative source. These messages, which vary in wording and sender, typically state that your account is going to be suspended soon for some reason unless or that we have noticed that your computer has been infected with a virus. These messages then go on to say that to prevent something awful from happening (such as account termination or viral infection) you either need to open the attached file or visit a given website. In actuality, the attached file is itself a virus and the website is not a FullNet site really, but one that will infect your computer with a virus by visiting it or will ask you for your FUllNet username/password and credit card information.

These emails can be very effective and therefore can cause a great deal of frustration and data loss. To help protect you from these messages we want to share with you some information so that you may attempt to verify whether or not an email is actually from FullNet.

      1. FullNet does not yet have an online account information or payment system in place, therefore FullNet does not maintain any websites which request your credit card information for any purpose other than establishing a new FullNet account.

      2. While FullNet representatives will attempt to contact a person they believe has a virus to notify them of the problem, they will never send an attachment and they will typically attempt to contact the user first by phone.

      3. FullNet does not issue email notifications regarding account terminations.

      4. For issues involving account billing information and username/password verification or change, FullNet representatives will only request this information over the phone. At most, a representative may email a user and request that they call the FullNet Customer Service department.

      5. All emails from FullNet except those which address an issue that will affect a large number of users (e.g. network maintenance), the newsletter, FullFilter account notifications, and billing notifications, will be signed by the representative who authored the message and will include their company contact information. The billing notifications have a very distinctive formatting and do not have attachments or request any account information from you. All other special cases will always include the issuing department's name and phone number.

These messages are actually a derivation of an old scheme commonly used to collect information from EBay users with a few new twists, and FullNet users are not the only ones being targeted. More information about this email-type is available at: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/joejobs/ebay.asp

In fact, the site that hosts this article (Snopes.com) focuses entirely on exposing internet hoaxes and frauds. If you ever receive an email that sounds ridiculous, outrageous, or too good to be true-search for it at Snopes because it's probably fake.

For those who are curious as how the email scam works, the sender of these messages will target any domain name (e.g. fullnet.net) and randomly send these messages to addresses which are commonly used and then make the messages appear to be from the company who registered the targeted domain.

To sum up the article in brief: FullNet uses email as an important means to notify its users of problems or provide answers to their questions, but FullNet does not request any sensitive information be given in an email or website. We ask that you please call FullNet's Customer Service department if you ever have any doubts about the authenticity of an email purporting to be from a FullNet representative.

Randen Swartz

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